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Common questions answered with our detailed Bovada BlackJack FAQ'S . Here is a guide to the most commonly asked questions about blackjack. Answered are both online blackjack that can be played at Bovada and live blackjack in land based casinos. Generally the same rules apply to online blackjack and land based casino blackjack. There are very few rule differences.

I tried out Bovada's blackjack table with 1,000 play money. Had 1,000 turn into 7,000 in 30 minutes just playing 2 handed 50pt bets. Decided to load $100 and try out real money. Same style, 2 handed, $5 bets. I think I lost 95% of the hands. Was out of money in less than 10 minutes. I always wondered if they can rig the.

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Before you start playing Blackjack, you must choose an appropriate table. If you are a beginner, you should learn a few important things. The most important factor is a betting limit. Both the minimum and the maximum allowable bets should be visible on the Blackjack table-top. In many casinos, the colors of tables stand for minimum allowable bets. Red for $5, Green for $25, and Black for $100. You should make sure that the table you've selected is actually a blackjack table and not some other card game. Another thing to consider is the number of decks used in the game. You can also try out some blackjack for free or real money online. Check out Bovada Now.

Basic rules of Blackjack

The main goal in the game of Blackjack is to draw cards until you come as close as possible to 21 without exceeding this number. You need to come closer to 21 than the dealer. You compete only against the dealer, you don't care about other players.

What is the value of each card in Blackjack

In Blackjack, the card values are the following.

  • Ace : 1 or 11
  • 2-9 : the value is the same as a given card's number
  • 10, J, Q, K all equal 10

The total cards value is simply the sum of the values of all cards in your hand. an example is (5, 7, 9) makes 21. Ace can be counted as 1 or 11, and the value is always chosen to your advantage. For example: (Ace, 6). If you stand on this, it'll be counted as 17. If you hit and draw 3, it makes 20. But if you hit and draw 8, it will make 15 (and not 25), because the Ace will be counted as 1.

If you have an Ace counted as 11, it is a so-called soft-hand. For example, (Ace, 6) is a soft 17, because you can draw another card without any risk that you may exceed 21. On the other hand, (Ace, 6, 10) is a hard 17, because Ace is counted as 1.

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  • Number of decks – the number of decks that will be used in the game.
  • Dealer hits or stands on soft 17 . The principle specifying if the dealer must stand on any 17, or if they should hit on so-called soft 17 and stand on hard 17.
  • Soft 17 is a 17 with an ace in the hand that is counted as 11. For example, an ace + 6 is a soft 17.
  • Hard 17 is a 17 with an ace counting as 1. For example, an ace + 6 + 10 is a hard 17.
  • Doubling allowed some casinos allow doubling of any two-card hand. Other casinos allow doubling only when the player has a total higher than 9, 10, or 11.
  • DA2 is double any two cards.
  • D9 is double 9, 10, or 11 only.
  • D10 is double 10 or 11 only.
  • DAS is double after split.

When do I have a Blackjack?

When the first two cards add up to 21. The payout for a Blackjack is 3:2. Be sure any Blackjack table you play on has a 3:2 BJ payout. Do not play on 6:5 BJ payout games. This is where some casinos will try to screw you.

BlackJack FAQ'S on Surrendering

A decision to surrender in Blackjack must be taken before drawing a card (except for the two first cards). This option is available only in some casinos. If you feel that your two cards will not beat the dealer, you can surrender. You lose only half of the bet.

There are two kinds of surrender, early and late surrender. Early surrender when a blackjack game offers it can be declared when the dealer is checking his cards for a blackjack. Late surrender can be declared only after the dealer has shown his cards. If the dealer does not have a blackjack, we keep half of the bet.

Hit and Stand

Hit means drawing another card. Stand means that your satisfied with the cards in your hand and don't want to draw anymore.

Doubling Down

Doubling down is usually allowed only after drawing the first two cards. Most Online casinos like Bovada allow doubling of any two-card hand. Other casinos allow doubling only when the player has a total higher than 9, 10, or 11. Doubling down allows for doubling the bet and drawing an extra card.

Splitting

Splitting pairs is an option of splitting two cards of the same value. The Blackjack player plays with two separate hands, playing his right hand out before proceeding to his left hand. If two Aces are split, you can draw only one additional card to each of them and drawing 10 does not make a blackjack.

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Insurance

The insurance bet is offered when the dealer's face-up card is an Ace. The dealer asks the players if any of them would like to take insurance. You can take it if you feel that the dealer might draw 10, which would give him a blackjack. Taking insurance, you must place another bet, which is equal to half of the original wager, and if you're right (i.e. the dealer draws 10), you are paid 2:1. If you're wrong, you lose your insurance bet. Insurance is merely a side bet – you still have to beat the dealer to win money on your initial wager. Here is the best Blackjack tip. NEVER TAKE INSURANCE.

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byte0
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I have been playing blackjack online at Bovada since the Bodog days (in the US). Being a software architect and developer for 20+ years I definitely have an intersecting interest in the game of blackjack and the coding that goes behind it. These games are supposedly certified by Gaming Associates using a pRNG, and Bovada will tell you it is completely fair using a normal sample size of 10,000+ hands. I have been accumulating my hand history for about a year and have close to 100,000 hands to evaluate. I can tell you while the hand %'s are on the money 44%win, 8%push, 48%loss, there are other statistics such as streaks, dealer dealt cards vs player dealt cards, drawing on 6 showing, and doubling that are certainly questionable. One most recent incident was a 485 hand session where I never won more than 1 hand in a row.
1. I know Wizard of Odds said he personally certified the Blackjack at Bodog/Bovada to be fair, but is that just a win/loss percentage check after x hands?
2. Is the outcome of the hand predetermined by the pRNG? Meaning, it wouldn't matter how the hand is played if action is taken without busting, the winner is already known.
Seems to me you could pass the pRNG test for hands won/loss, but adjust or force outcomes on premium double down hands to make the blackjack 'handicapped' over long term.
Also:
- Yes I know this has been beaten to death, but I feel like analytically I am digging a little deeper here.
- Yes I play in land based casinos all the time and I realize online you are seeing many times over the number of hands you could see live.
- Yes I know it is not to Bovada's advantage to offer a game that is 'rigged'. However, it is definitely to their advantage to ensure their system cannot be beaten.
- Yes I know its a continuous shuffle, and card counting doesn't apply.
Romes
Hi byte, and welcome to the forum. I'm in development (almost 10 years) as well (as other on here are). You seem to have fair points and questions, but what I can tell you now is it's going to come down to the data.
First, you'll need to post your data so that it can be analyzed and real numbers tests, such as what you're saying with the streaks/etc can be determined.
Next, your data will be questioned unless it's a video log of your screen while you play. People with grievances or whatever could/would fudge some of the numbers and possibly give bovada a scare, reputation hit, or whatever.
After getting a large, untamperable, sampling size then the real math can be worked on and proven/disproved. Until then I can agree with you all day but it won't actually account for much or mean anything unfortunately =/. You do seem like you have a fairly good idea of things too.
beachbumbabs
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Hi, byte, and welcome to the forum. In the past, the Wizard has had to have hand logs to analyze, (which you have), and specific contentions to test against (which you kind of list; up to him the level of specificity he needs). He may answer your questions as to how the software works, or it may be proprietary to Bovada, I don't know. Seems like you might send him a Private Message (the envelope on the toolbar above) with a link to this thread (paste it in the message) asking him to take a look. He reads many things on here, but not everything, and I think he'd want to see this. (Please keep in mind, I don't speak for him; I just wanted to acknowledge your post.)
A couple of random thoughts. If the win/loss/tie percentage is right on expectation, I'm not sure how much interest there would be in the journey, as far as crunching the numbers/labor cost. However, there have been member requests before for large data files of hands from a consistent source, and it might be very much appreciated if you shared yours. Hold off on doing that for the moment, though; it's just a thought.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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Romes
One thing I thought would be interesting is what if they made the win/loss %'s correct, but as the OP said the streaks are horrific (in both directions) so that you have losing streaks you simply can't sustain. That would keep the %'s correct but still be a 'rigged' game.
MichaelBluejay

Is the outcome of the hand predetermined by the pRNG?


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No. What's random is how the cards are drawn. Depending on how it's programmed, either the entire virtual deck is shuffled randomly and then the cards are drawn off the top (which is CPU-intensive), or the cards are drawn randomly from an unshelled deck (which is much faster and simpler, and how I do it when I program simulations).
Last edited by: MichaelBluejay on Jan 30, 2016
beachbumbabs
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No. What's random is how the cards are drawn. Depending on how it's programmed, either the entire virtual deck is shuffled randomly and then the cards are drawn off the top (which is CPU-intensive), or the cards are drawn randomly from an unshelled deck (which is much faster and simpler, and how I do it when I program simulations).


What is an 'unshelled deck'?
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
HeyMrDJ

What is an 'unshelled deck'?


I think he means un-shuffled, imagine 13 cards in order (obv theres more than 13 in a deck), if the RNG picks 8 it equals an 8, 13 = K and so on.
In my programming I shuffle the deck and draw off the top, in theory its the same thing, but I like to mimic real life as much as possible.
Guess who peed in my Cheerios? Romes did...
OnceDear
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One thing I thought would be interesting is what if they made the win/loss %'s correct, but as the OP said the streaks are horrific (in both directions) so that you have losing streaks you simply can't sustain. That would keep the %'s correct but still be a 'rigged' game.


It occurs to me that if the overall medium term win/lose ratio is correct, but that they bias it towards player losing on high value hands, then wouldn't they have to counter balance that by rigging to pay out a larger proportion of hands where stakes are low? Wouldn't that give small scale betters an advantage.
Or do they do like VW and only un-rig it for audits.
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
AxelWolf
Whomever thinks this RTG BJ software is 100% random I have a +EV betting situation for you.
Because we will probably never get in enough big bets to prove anything a side bet will have to do. I don't believe counting the % of winning hands VS losing hands is a valid test, especially flat betting small amounts.
I always had a significant amount of disproportional big bets lose. For instance. Lets say I'm playing .50 VP then suddenly I decide to play a $100 hand of BJ. You guessed it, I have NEVER won a hand doing that.
When betting small $1-$5 It seems to play 'normal' of course you eventually lose. Anytime I have ever played bigger bets I go on the most horrible runs ever.
You use YOUR money to play.
You play a series of $1 bets, at some point I'll ask you to jump your bet to $100+.

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I'll make you a side bet (my bet is that you will lose) and give you odds for an amount that puts you at a 1.5% advantage on each hand.
Anyone can quit wherever they wish.
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OnceDear
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Whomever thinks this RTG BJ software is 100% random I have a +EV betting situation for you.
I'll make you a side bet (my bet is that you will lose) and give you odds for an amount that puts you at a 1.5% advantage on each hand.
Anyone can quit wherever they wish.


You must be pretty convinced it's VERY gaffed to offer that wager. I'll pass.

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Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..